by some political will to try and point
a score i think that's a really
important point but can i clarify one
point maria is it in your view the
government's job to make sure if i buy a
can and it says beef
is it your job to make sure it is beef
or somebody else's job i think it's
absolutely squarely the role of both the
manufacturer and also the retailer to
make sure the products that are on there
are absolutely what they should be i
think i mean everybody is blaming
government
both governments for not checking that
that's beef the government has got a
role to check that but the primary
responsibilities have got to raise
the primary responsibility when you're
dealing with a mass fraud on a
pan-european scale
the liberal democrats and the tories
want to blame on criminals i may say if
it's all just a criminal matter why did
the tories take three weeks to call in
the police because that's what it took
them before they asked the police in
this country to start treating it as a
crime
but this goes to the heart of the matter
there are consequences to deregulation
the tories are always talking about we
need to get rid of red tape and
deregulate this these are the kind of
consequences that occur when you
deregulate and there are consequences to
sacking public servants
off the hook no but i hold you
responsible for what happens in this
country not find us we didn't elect
we can't
instead of in the house of lords the
house of lords is
i don't want a blind guy
i want you to face up to this if you
sack police officers there are
consequences if you sack food standards
agency uh inspectors there are
consequences it's time to end this
cutting of public service workers as if
public servants were some rubbish that
can be easily dispensed